I’m not the most seasoned when it come to MLM’s but i know enough by now. At this point im involved with one MLM and considering another which is in the title of this topic. Im starting this thread for input on this company or to see if anyone has found information pertaining to the business aspect of this company. Also, any Pre-Paid associates out there? PFL is a relatively new one only a couple of months old from what I gather.
They are trying to “cut back” to make themselves more profitable. I wonder if all the lawsuits are costing them too much money? Primerica in essence does not cost a dime because they don’t pay for overhead or salaries. What is even more interesting is nobody wants to buy Primerica. Nobody. I wonder if they will just end up severing the relationship and leaving it at that.
Remember my story in which my boyfriend was involved with Primeri Inc.? Well to give you all an update, we just broke up an hour ago. He got laid off from his company and he is flying back to Illinos. He says he is going to start computer programming again, but I think he will probably end up in another MLM.
Anyway having spent the better part of 3 years with this guy I am wondering if thier is anyone (preferably female) who would like to hang out and talk about MLM’s face to face. I live in Orlando.
You need to read Steve Hassan’s books on cults and helping people get out of them – you can find them on second hand on Amazon or bookfinder.com. Cults don’t have to be religious organisations, there are commercial cults as well.
If he is using phrases like ’employee mentality’ Primerica are obviously using the same script as Amway/Quixtar. In all the meetings I attended they were always putting down J.O.B.s
Make sure your own finances are protected. Don’t support his business in any way. Make sure you don’t have any joint accounts or liabilities for bills.
Presenting him with negative information on Primerica probably won’t work, but asking lots of questions, to which he has to find out fhe answers, may. Such as, how are the higher-ups making their money? Can any of them prove, by tax forms, that they are making money? Is there a ‘training system’ in Primerica which generates income for someone?
I did a commission only job for a while – selling advertising space on the telephone. I did make good money at this but I needed to constantly program myself with positive self-talk in order to get through the days when everyone hung up on me. He may find some of the reputable books on selling helpful, assuming the computer company he’s with is a good one. You can probably find some in the library. However, if he’s still not sold anything after several months his confidence must be rock-bottom and that’s a vicious circle when it comes to sales.
Perhaps suggest that he looks for another programming job which pays a salary, just to get him through the next few months.
I know he’s probably been taught that ‘winners never quit’ but remember that the height of stupidity is to continue to do the same thing and expect to get a different result.
I’ve been with 3 different MLM’s in over a span of 17 years (including Primer) and believe me, I gave the MLM theory of that trickle down commission every opportunity to work and I hope all these unscrupulous companies take a hard nose dive in the court of law. In some ways if you actually take a closer look, any of these sales reps and their downline are indirectly working under a illegal pyramid scheme.
It’s a shame it takes near bankruptcy to finally see the theory of ‘more coming in than going out’. I could never understand why so many professionals with college degrees that takes years to earn,quit their lucrative jobs for an unproven system. I first tried out my marketing skills in ’80 at age 20 when I was in the work force with no college so I didn’t throw away a college degree or tuition.
But honestly, I can’t conduct business with a friend by selling shampoo or term life insurance. It just doesn’t seem comfortable for me to take my neighbors’ money in this nature. It certainly took a while for my friends to talk to me again after I gave up the chase.(and tell your boyfriend: yes I even made many cold calls so I didn’t go just one route. Attended many seminars locally and afar costing thousands and chasing prospects over hundreds of miles traveled !! I was just as determined as he is.)
I even had my girlfriend as partner in the business in my final attempt in ’95. I figured a multi award-winning car salesperson should find promoting MLM products easy. How advantageous was my situation?? I had the resources, experience and NOW the talent on my team to go far. The system just doesn’t work for the downline.
I can only recommend that since he’s not listening to you that he takes that journey himself and if the trend continues he’ll have to break. I know it took me almost TWO years to get over the anger after my final attempt of the business,almost two years to get back to financial stability and almost two years to get my friends back. And even if your boyfriend has even a modicum of success how many small wrecks would he have made in his wake ?
I’m sure he’ll see the light because his wallet won’t allow him to be blind for long.
PrimerInc is a MLM financial scheme. At first he was making good money then it all fell apart 2 years ago. He is still unwilling to see all the problems it is causing him.
He is making $300.00 a month and spending $2000.00 a month. He is selling all of his belongs and he is close to declaring bankruptcy.
He is unwilling to get a 9-5 job because he says he does not have the “employee mentality”. He keeps bragging about what a great company PrimerInc is and it would have worked if x or y had been different. He can’t see that the company is the problem.
6 months ago we got into our first argument. I told him I did not like PrimerInc one bit and that he needed to find some other line of work. He found a job with one of his PrimerInc buddies in which he sells computer hardware. He works on commission only and has yet to sell anything. He told me it takes time to sell things, (that is what PrimerInc taught him) and I need to patient but one of the products will surely make him $100,000.00 in 12 months. I recently told him he needed to find a Job that pays.
Don’t get me wrong he is a good person and fun to be around he has just been brainwashed by this company. He was an extremely successful computer programmer before PrimerInc took over his life.
My question is to all those MLM survivors- how do you deprogram someone from this kind of thinking? I asked my boyfriend if he would work for another company like PrimerInc if offered the chance. He said of course he would. I am nearly at wits end to make him see the light.
Never got past the first level, so I didn’t get to see much of the inner workings, but it is MLM. A couple of weekends ago, I had the opportunity to speak with the wife of my upline, my husband’s best friend from high school who skipped our wedding to go to his first big function. The wife had told the husband that she wasn’t going to do PFS anymore because it wasn’t who she was. She stopped going to functions and trainings, and is much happier now.
I shared with her what I had learned from “Merchants of Deception” and other resources, and came to the understanding that PFS is like Quixtar Lite. There are training materials, but you don’t have to buy them. There are weekly trainings and big rallies that your are expected to spend hundreds of dollars to go to ad also get 1000 loan or more woth bad credit + many of the buzzwords and phrases are the same. What really turned me off was when my upline told me that I had to see everyone I knew and everyone I met as either a potential recruit or a potential customer. I can’t be that utilitarian. And the stories people proudly told of missing their children’s birthdays, their sons’ football games, their parents’ funerals so that they could build the business, which of course they were doing for their family, made me sick. It was all such a big lie.
On the other hand, what we were teaching people back then (don’t know about now) was good; in fact it needs to be taught in every college and high school: Get out of debt, buy cheaper term insurance rather than whole life/cash value, invest the difference in a mutual fund. I would have felt better about it, though, if I could have found cheaper products for my customers. PFS products weren’t bad, but there were too many times when I just couldn’t close a sale because I knew my clients could get the same for cheaper. The other aspect that makes PFS a bit more legitimate than Quixtar is that you have to sell to people outside the business. There’s no such thing as being your own best customer. Of course, you were expected to have PFS life insurance and mutual funds, and you hoped that your clients would join as recruits, but you had to have outside customers or you wouldn’t make it. Plus, you do need to be able to pass the insurance and securities licensing exams.
Back to the first hand, they do lie to you initially about how much time it will take, the drop-out rate is probably very high, and they do tell you to stay away from negative people (i.e. people who will tell you the truth). In my group, they even told us that we would drop our old friends and hang with new ones, because when you’re rich and your old friends are not, it’s not going to be comfortable to be around them anymore. We were going to want to be around people who could afford to do the things we were going to want to do. Hmm, and after 13 years, my upline was still hanging with his old high school buddies.
It was actually part of her University externship. She said it was pretty bad. People didn’t get paid for the work they did and that it was a cult, etc. I have a friend “working” for them now. He is at their offices till 11pm “training”, and not getting paid!
I have been called by them at least 10 times to come interview, I have never returned thier call though.
On the bright side my friend did get a job at HSBC after Priamerica and is now a seasoned analyst making 80k.
I was called for a job interview at what I thought was a legit mortgage/financial company, until I saw the telltale business front with no signage on the front, the multiple offices consisting of a round table, a couple of chairs, and multiple awards on the back wall. Not to mention a large room set up for a presentation, and a few wet behind the ears young adults in new dress shirts and ties. I lied to get out of there as soon as I could because I can’t afford to take that chance.
Does anyone have an opinion on them or their products, or even why CitiFinancial would even allow them to exist? They seem to be a sister company.
By the way, I’ve been duped by a friend peddling Amway, some Debt Free Living pyramid scheme based in Vegas, lost $300 joining Equinox, and almost got screwed by Herbalife until I did a lot of research on the internet and finding out what they really are and how mediocre and overpriced their products are.
Just today I interviewed a woman who had some unlicensed contracting work done on her home that was sold to her by a local pastor. According to people he used to work with, “If you can sell God, you can sell anything.”
The statement I made about Christians being well off was actually based on actual members of my own church who *do* act ethically *all* the time, sometimes to their financial detriment, not just a blanket statement or assumption about people I do not have personal knowledge of. Believe me, I am well aware of the hypocrasy that runs rampant in churches, etc… All I was saying is that neither God nor Jesus preached that you had to be poor to serve them, just that if you were rich, you had a harder time of it (more temptations, etc.) If you want to start quoting chapter and verse, we can discuss it, but let’s not waste time arguing about human nature. We’re all screwed up one way or another.